Podcast WSW - Combined User Interface Testing
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Introduction and Greetings
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Dan DeLong: Welcome everybody to another Workshop Wednesday. Casual conversations for serious workflows brought to you by School of Bookkeeping where you can learn QuickBooks your way. Hi Rachel, how are you? Hi,
Rachel Dauchy: I'm good. How are you?
Dan DeLong: Fantastic. That is sarcasm.
Rachel Dauchy: Oh no, you're not good. [00:01:00]
Dan DeLong: With all of the news yesterday I.
Discussing Intuit's Recent Announcement
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Dan DeLong: Trying to decide how we're going to talk about today's topic, which is actually connected with with the news yesterday that Intuit just dumped on everybody. 'cause it's that season, it's that time of year. Yeah,
Rachel Dauchy: I know they always do that around this time of year. But I didn't hear the news yesterday because guess what I was doing yesterday,
Dan DeLong: working
Rachel Dauchy: level two.
Dan DeLong: There you go. Congratulations. Yeah, and I'm sure it's already outdated because of all of the changes. Yeah.
Rachel Dauchy: Yeah. So now tell me exactly what the heck I'm gonna have to relearn.
Dan DeLong: Yeah, I just got the I just signed my engagement contract for update or doing the technical editing for the QBO for Dummies book this year, which I am I'm imagining the topic that we're gonna be talking about [00:02:00] and how the user interface is changing.
Is gonna be horribly difficult to write.
Rachel Dauchy: Does it have something to do with this? Increased API connection? Is that what it is?
Dan DeLong: No. No. Okay. Nevermind.
Rachel Dauchy: Then I saw somebody post something about that, but unrelated. Okay.
Dan DeLong: So, yesterday Intuit announced, I don't know. It's a, double-edged, punch.
A double-edged sword. One, two punch. When you get a, a. They get some feedback with some compliments in it. Uhhuh, it's which is, it, right? Yeah. All the accountants and bookkeepers of course are focused on the pricing changes that are going on with QuickBooks online because that just updates that's always a thing
Rachel Dauchy: and it's always a thing, yeah. What am I
Dan DeLong: paying for, blah, blah, blah. [00:03:00] We are in historically. An annual thing where, you know, with QuickBooks online, they, update the prices around June or announce the prices around June, July because their fiscal year actually starts August 1st.
That's why typically a lot of these things seem to happen in the summer. This is also their fourth quarter, which is typically also where you see, reorganizations and labor force changes and things like that. As. Kicking up for the new fiscal year. So with the with the announcement of pricing updates, they, they tried to put at the beginning of the of the email notification and the articles why,
Intro Music: why they're doing
Dan DeLong: this.
And what's coming out Intuit has made [00:04:00] no, no qualms or, mistakes or.
AI Agents in QuickBooks Online
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Dan DeLong: Whatever they haven't hidden the fact that they have vet their company on ai. And Intuit assist which has been long been waiting we've been waiting for something to be like, oh, that's interesting.
So the shape that this is taking place inside of QuickBooks Online is under this naming convention of AI agents. So basically there's there's little agents inside hide, lurking inside of your, QuickBooks. Imagine hopefully they're not gremlins, but they're little helpers, right?
They're, helpers, but they're. Trained specifically for a specific task.
Rachel Dauchy: Okay.
Dan DeLong: So for [00:05:00]
Rachel Dauchy: you're talking about not real people. You're talking about bots and agent system, Right. Yeah.
Dan DeLong: Ai, ai. I was like, wait, maybe
Rachel Dauchy: he's talking about people. I, don't know. He lost me yet.
Dan DeLong: That's the term that they're, that's the term that they're using. And when we were at Intuit was talking about, AI driven experts.
And, that expert could be a human or it could be a digital. Agent. And what we're talking about right now is the digital agent, or, person.
Yeah,
Rachel Dauchy: I was gonna say ex expert. Ai Digital agent is a little bit of an oxymoron because I've asked AI a lot of accounting questions, and some of the answers I get are scary.
Dan DeLong: So with with each flavor of QuickBooks, simple Start Essentials Plus and Advanced, you get a varying number [00:06:00] of agents within those subscriptions, right?
So simple start, you get, basically smart categorization and and, expense so the rules Yeah. And the bank fees and those types of things. But in essentials you get an accounting agent, a payments agent if you have QuickBooks on payments. And then in plus you get a customer agent.
An, an enhancement of the accounting agent. And then that's it. And then in advance you get all of those agents plus a finance agent, a project management agent, and that's it. So there's, a total of seven of these agents, right? And they're just supposed to be there helping you, right?
They're also unveiling this combined user interface that they're trying to change [00:07:00] or trying to incorporate some of the other things that are that are in the, into an ecosystem.
New User Interface Prototypes
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Dan DeLong: So I got my hot little hands on prototype.
Rachel Dauchy: Oh yeah. So I think we've seen a little bit of it here and there, right?
Like I'm seeing some interface changes, but I don't think I've seen the whole thing. Yeah.
Dan DeLong: Yeah. I'm gonna share the, oh, I meant to share this article, so I put it in the comments there. But that's the firm of the future article talking about the AI agents and the, innovation here. And lemme quickly share my.
There it is. So this is the, oh
Intro Music: yeah.
Dan DeLong: This is the user interface that they are currently beta testing. And you might as an, as a bookkeeper or an accounting professional stumble across a client who has opted into or has, this [00:08:00] this beta test, somewhere in the neighborhood of 60,000 things, right?
And. Two different, two different iterations of this. So it may look like this, it may not look like this, or it may look like something that you're familiar with.
Rachel Dauchy: I did see this though in somebody's account. I forget who, but I did see it because I remember. Apps thing. Yeah, it's under apps,
Dan DeLong: right? So we're just gonna, yeah, it's the whole idea.
And I think what the whole idea is, I'm totally speculating because I don't, they don't tell me anything, so I just either find it out myself or, or just happened to stumble across something. But here is a, like a prototype of concept of one of the concept. And then here is a prototype of another one.
[00:09:00] So this kind of looks like the one that they're showing up in, in that, screenshot there. But you can see as an accountant, you pop into a, client like this expecting. This.
Intro Music: Yeah.
Dan DeLong: You're expecting the side menu of what you're used to and the things at the top, and your dashboard.
Maybe you have some business overview on the dashboard, but then you come over and it's like this, like where is everything? Like
Rachel Dauchy: yeah, I can't, yeah, that's hard.
Dan DeLong: Now you have to. And then they're also, as I was poking around in here they're, changing some of the terminology.
So this reminds me of, when they had that business view versus the accountant view, and then based on all of the accountant feedback, they got rid of the business view. [00:10:00]
But now they're doing this. This is like business view on steroids because it's where I know it's awful.
Rachel Dauchy: I, I can't stand it because all I wanna do is just go to the things I need to go.
I don't want it constantly change. But people have brought this up before. It they're a software company, right? And they they're not even necessarily. It's not even necessarily about being a ledger, it's just software. And so they wanna sell to as many people as possible.
And, so they are catering to and making it try to be, you don't need to be an accountant to use it you can just be like regular Joe, business owner and look, we're just gonna make it. Agnostic for you. And so I don't need all that, but yeah I understand why they do it.
It, to me, it's just a pain. The,
Dan DeLong: the biggest thing is the changing of the terminology of
Rachel Dauchy: that I hate, and guess what else [00:11:00] I hate, when they changed undeposited funds to payments, to deposit. It's stop. Just just have people understand what undeposited fund means.
Dan DeLong: Yeah.
Which if you try to type it to, somebody it's an un, it's an un misspelled word. So word. My Microsoft word doesn't wor understand the word positive. Oh my
Rachel Dauchy: gosh. Oh my goodness.
Navigational Changes and User Experience
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Dan DeLong: But let's just go through some of the navigational changes because this prototype here doesn't have any data in it anyway, so I really can't go into like transactions and things like.
Our plus new button, which is now just called Create, and then you have all of your main transactions to create, which is the Plus button. So going over here this guy here has just turned into. This guy. So you've got this this menu [00:12:00] here. And then you have shortcuts, which is just like what you had before with bookmarks, but now they're called shortcuts just to keep you on your toes.
And then you have this dashboard which gives you. Your basic things that you had seen before, but just all on one page, right? So you've got this business feed here, and then some insights and then widgets that you can add to the dashboard that you had seen before. And then this slider up here at the top called My Apps.
Now apps is not the apps. That we would be familiar with, a third party app that integrates with QuickBooks because this calls, this is called customer hub sales and get paid marketing, accounting spend sales tax, right? So those are key or functions, core [00:13:00] functions of, QuickBooks. And they're just now calling them apps, right?
Because. And, I started learning this kind of terminology with when we were working with a method, right? Because method calls the same, there's the, functionality inside it will be called an app, even though you may have a third party application.
Rachel Dauchy: Yeah. Also connected to it as well.
People use that term for everything I do too.
Dan DeLong: Yeah. So you can go to the major sections like the customer hub which now has an overview. Customers, leads, proposals and reviews. Now reviews. That's new. That's that's something that, this is where we're starting to see an incorporation of other things.
Intuit, ecosystem, like MailChimp, right? So if you have a QuickBooks [00:14:00] account. And a MailChimp account, it makes sense that your QuickBooks and your MailChimp are talking to each other. Because if you're gonna be creating these, journeys and repeat business and sending SMS messages or emails or social posts why not have some of that data from QuickBooks filling in some of that information on those emails or.
Information that you're sending out of QuickBooks, right? So that's where that's where things are taking quite a bit of change here. So now that you're in the, now that you have this, my apps here on the left side, now it's a little bit familiar from what you're seeing. It's just different colors, right?
Whitewashed, I guess is, yeah, is the best way.
Rachel Dauchy: Do they let us customize those colors though?
Dan DeLong: Oh, no. [00:15:00] I don't even know. I don't even know what these.
Rachel Dauchy: Icons me, right? Like
Dan DeLong: a like sales tax looks like a shield, spend, I don't know. It's a what are, these things, right?
Rachel Dauchy: I dunno. So are we saying we don't like this?
Is that what we're saying?
Dan DeLong: If anybody loves change, it's accountants and bookkeepers, right? It's it's, just something new to get used to.
Intro Music: Yeah.
Feedback and Concerns from Accountants
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Dan DeLong: Of course, the first time that you go into a client that has this, it's gonna be terribly frustrating, to, experience this. We're like, where is everything?
Yeah. Where did you know if you're a, ma a mouse going through a, maze to find the cheese and now someone has moved the cheese. Who
Intro Music: moved my cheese?[00:16:00]
Dan DeLong: It, makes a little, it, the idea is that it would make intuitive sense. That's the name of the company is to be intuitive. Yeah. But when you are a power user of QuickBooks or something like that Yeah. And you're so familiar with going, clicking here, doing things maybe have your own bookmarks set up, those types of things.
And then. It's completely different the next time that you go into it.
Rachel Dauchy: Yeah, that just goes to show that they don't care about power users. They, it's not their concern. They are thinking new users. That's it. New users that can now look at this new dashboard and go, oh, I can figure that out. That makes sense to me.
Like that to me is the only thing they care about selling new subscriptions.
Dan DeLong: I don't know that I a hundred percent agree with that because over the course of my [00:17:00] years at Intuit, I've gone through a lot of updates and changes and things. Yeah. And I've heard initially people hate it, but as people get used to it.
And then they change it again. People hate the new change, but they Yeah, but they, don't say go back to the way things were before this change happened this first time. No they like the way Yeah. Things get changed too because they get accustomed to it.
Intro Music: Yeah.
Dan DeLong: This is just that first.
To something being completely changed,
Rachel Dauchy: I'll say my point being is I don't love it when they deviate from, to me it's an accounting software. It's not a do all thing software. So when you. And I'm not saying I disagree with the color scheme or the UI or whatever, but when you are changing names and you're getting away from the [00:18:00] name of something that somebody may have even gone to school to get educated on these common accounting names.
Don't change it to some non-existent name that. Doesn't even have a place in bookkeeping and accounting because that's where go ahead and make it. Pop in color and easy on the eyes or all, the things that you wanna do for your software, but when you're taking it away from standardization, when it comes to accounting rules, that's where I'm like, don't do that.
That I can't
Dan DeLong: do. Yeah. Yeah. And this may ultimately end up where we're back at this business view and accountant view, where, someone is is I just need it to not change. Yeah. And I need to know my way around because if you're going in you got somebody that's doing bookkeeping, or, today's reconciliation [00:19:00] day for all my clients, right?
And then they start to go in here and. How do I get around and do these reconciliations? What are the the screens themselves once, once you're in them, are likely not gonna change. It's just getting to them because this user interface, right? Yeah. To get to those, base, those places is what's going to change.
Now it's my understanding for those people who use Right Tool, Hector Garcia and. Awesome Chrome extension, that they have actually been working with them to make sure that their bookmarks and links and things those, their tasks that they're doing to help keep those efficiencies up, up and running are not being impacted by this whole user interface.
Change. Good.
Rachel Dauchy: Because I'm a right tool user and I can't have anything happen to my right tool,
Dan DeLong: I don't think Hector would [00:20:00] want that either. No, because you go around and looking around in here, it's how is this gonna work with that sort of thing.
Exploring the Business Feed
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Dan DeLong: But just going down the left side, then you've got this business feed here, which is where this is the.
International Intuit symbol for the AI Intuit assist. So by clicking on feed you can get an idea that this is where the generative ai, of Intuit showing up here inside of your QuickBooks, right? So you're gonna see things like, okay there were invoices that were paid. What do you wanna do with that?
So giving you the next logical step in the workflow for something that has happened, right? So whether you've got invoices that are overdue, you can create some reminder emails if you want to from there, and then you can use [00:21:00] that. Right there. And to write the invoices or write the, reminders or emails or whatever it's, that you wanna do right from your QuickBooks.
And if this is then incorporated with MailChimp, right? Then you'll have those features and functions that'll be available to use. But that's where you have the, feed, right?
Navigating Reports and Integrations
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Dan DeLong: And then you've got your reports in here where you can go into the, reports. And I did this a little bit because, one thing about the other report, the, current reports is.
Unless you know what you're looking for, you, you kind have to, you have to know what you're looking for. So they,
Rachel Dauchy: yeah.
Dan DeLong: I do that they grouped Oh yeah. Group. I
Rachel Dauchy: like that. Yeah. With the
Dan DeLong: groups here, so you don't have to just keep scrolling down. Yeah. That
Rachel Dauchy: is helpful.
Dan DeLong: And then, [00:22:00] oh, these are, oh, actually those are just, easier.
Let's see. They don't seem to be categories, but again, this is a prototype, so it may not actually be working, but you have your sections up here at the top. Yep. And of course I'm assuming this is, QBO advanced and not any other flavor of, QuickBooks. We did talk about the my apps, so that's where you would see everything else, and then integrations is what we would traditionally call apps. So where you have, oh,
Rachel Dauchy: okay. So this is where you would see I, hope that they have done some improvements to this, because I have to tell you, like the apps center in QBOA. Accountant not advanced. Is for me, never works properly.
And so I really, I can't [00:23:00] see my apps, my client's apps. I can't launch the apps like you would think that you're able to, there's a lot of problems that I'm always having with that. So I like that I can hover and then see, and man, if I can. Access that, that way, that would be a good thing.
Dan DeLong: Yeah. Now I, you're probably gonna have the same obstacles that you had in the past, right?
Because there are some apps that can only be launched by the person who connected them, right? So if if that was. Your client who connected them, or if it's the firm accountant or whoever happened to connect them. You may have some obstacles there. I know that launching set, that
Rachel Dauchy: would be, yeah, that could be a problem with some of 'em.
But like the, like these ones I'm thinking in of, in particular, I have connected them, so I don't know why it's getting me trouble, but I.
Dan DeLong: Who know.
Automation and Discover Features
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Dan DeLong: And then there's [00:24:00] this automations sent section here, which looks like you can send some reminders, notify about a purchase order update. Things that we would typically see under workflows.
It looks automations are, in there because tasks and workflows, which were the, connect the, function. Things being done automatically. It does make a little bit more sense to actually just call it automations, right? Because those are triggered events. And then discover, which is all the things that they want to.
To you in there. And then we have our our other options over here. So we have some tools, right?
Tools and Payment Processing
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Dan DeLong: So we have our tasks up here a payment processor, which is cool. You can, if you just wanna make a payment or take a payment you can [00:25:00] just put that in here and charge a card.
Rachel Dauchy: Oh, that's pretty cool. Yeah, because I, do know that just even taking the. The level two exam yesterday, one of the new features is being able to do a recurring a C
Dan DeLong: Nope, what you've forgotten it already. A,
Rachel Dauchy: not a recurring invoice, but a recurring payment directly from the, could we not do recurring payments before?
Dan DeLong: You could you could do them, but you had to set them up as recurring transaction of a sales receipt. And a lot of people still have this attachment to invoices.
Rachel Dauchy: Yeah. It's not that, which
Dan DeLong: we're also gonna talk about next week. So you're,
Rachel Dauchy: yeah, because [00:26:00] I do recurring sales receipts all every month. But it's not that. It's the fact that you can now access it. Somewhere else.
And I just saw, I just, it was just on the test yesterday. I'll have to, I'll have to find out.
But anyway, you remembered it. Long, new, cool stuff. You remembered
Dan DeLong: it long enough to answer the question. Then we have contacts here, which I'm not quite sure what you can do there, but I'm sure it's pulling in either from your customer list or your,
Rachel Dauchy: maybe MailChimp. You're
Dan DeLong: MailChimp. Yeah. Contacts as well.
Contacts. And then we have a calendar as well in inside of inside of QuickBooks. So you
Rachel Dauchy: can, wow. Wait a minute. Is that like syncing with a Google calendar or something like that? Or is that just a calendar feature in, I,
Dan DeLong: I, I, you, your guess is as good as mine.
Rachel Dauchy: That there was never a calendar feature in there.
Dan DeLong: So people who live [00:27:00] in QuickBooks, if they can incorporate their calendar, that would be cool to, oh, I gotta, I gotta jump out because I have a meeting or something. And then there's other tools here that you can add. I can't even click on any of these things. So that's what the.
The limitation of this, prototype here. But we have bookmarks and recent activity documents. So if you want to access the documents, so it'll just give you more options, across the top.
Prototypes and User Interface Changes
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Dan DeLong: Now that's one particular prototype there. They're testing another one. So here's the other one, right? So this one already has, the.
Instead of coagulating everything under my apps, right? It's already got the customer hub, the sales. And so it's already very, so this one's a little bit of more of a, less of a, change, because
Rachel Dauchy: Yeah, I was gonna say I like a little bit better. The front dashboard doesn't look so much [00:28:00] like a Google search like the previous one did.
Dan DeLong: So you have these things already in here you can go into sales tax and then you have your, sub menus that, that show up. So one thing is you don't have this, hunting like you did with the, sub menus. In, in, in over here, right? So if you're like, I want to go to my sales tax center, I gotta go to taxes and.
Yeah, trying to click on it it's this, hunt and destroy here. So rather than clicking on taxes, which takes you to a whole new page, and then you go to sales tax here, this just, you can click on it and then there's the sub menus right there. Yeah, it's static. You don't have to go, change the view that you're having here.
But these views in here are. Intentionally left blank. This is [00:29:00] like a financial document.
Intro Music: Yeah.
Dan DeLong: And you get a prospectus or something. It says, this page intentionally left.
Rachel Dauchy: I guess I don't really know why they feel the need to like, I don't know. Is that so much of a problem that they need to fix that or is it that there's people like Hector Garcia that are reducing clicks, so you know, they have to make it as easy to click on as possible just 'cause as of a response.
You know what I mean? That's what I'm wondering.
Intro Music: Yeah.
Rachel Dauchy: Necessarily look at the way QuickBooks is right now and go, oh man. If, only but I get the need to always improve it and always have it be easier to navigate around. But I guess what I'm trying to say is there are some people I know that love every bell and whistle and there's always a spectrum of people.
There's like the people that are like, yes [00:30:00] I love every change, I love all these things and I'll use every single one. Then there's. People like me, like in the middle I'll use if you give me all these changes, I'll end up using most of them at some point.
But, and I'll certainly adapt to them. But I guess they're, I guess they're just counting on the fact that people will just get used to it.
Dan DeLong: Yeah. And I think from my time there, the, these people work really hard at trying to come up with these new new features, right?
And, we just talked about one of them that was pretty cool that people didn't use tags, right? Yeah. If the, problem that they have is that people don't discover these new tools, right? Yeah.
Intro Music: You
Dan DeLong: know [00:31:00] unless they know what they're looking for. What I see here is that this is I think what they're trying to do is make things, make the, the entry point to QuickBooks.
Very simple. And because I know some business owners they just, go in and they check a couple things, right? Workflows to the things that they check a couple things on, right? Yeah. So like I can see here's this, leads pipeline, five new leads. Okay, that's, that might be interesting to me.
Whoever ha whoever happens to be logging in. And then it will take them to the next thing of what do I do with that? So now by incorporating MailChimp in the, sales pipeline type of. The people who [00:32:00] are concerned about some of these things they will go into QuickBooks and start there first and then potentially use the, all of the things that they can use.
Yeah.
Rachel Dauchy: And that is good because they I, do appreciate that they, on the one hand, they increase the prices a lot, but on the other hand, they're like but we wanna make all this stuff visible to you, so you're using it, which I appreciate.
Dan DeLong: Yeah.
Feedback and Future Updates
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Dan DeLong: And then with the incorporation, I guess with these AI agents, you'll start to get these, suggestions, right?
So that be like, Hey, you can use you can get somebody paid. Faster if you use QuickBooks payments or, it'll start to hopefully it, it doesn't turn into an, into a marketing machine of Hey, with payroll you could do Yeah. This and try to get people to switch payroll [00:33:00] providers when it it ain't broke, don't fix it.
And that's what I hear coming from you is that Hey, why are we going through this when there's so many other things that. Are broken, that really should develop, be, develop. I know,
Rachel Dauchy: like even not just for me, but I know for a lot of other people, they already do feel like it's a self-promotion, tool.
For a lot of these other things. So I just. There, there's nothing to do for us except for either accept it or not. So I'd rather just accept it and be like, okay, cool. If there's something I can learn from it or improve upon, great. But but for me, if there's, if this user enterprise is constantly changing it, can it.
For me, border's on aggravating. 'cause I, don't want it to slow me down. It [00:34:00]
Dan DeLong: can be terribly frustrating if okay this, is the way things look. And then based on feedback, they remove lending, for example.
Rachel Dauchy: Yeah From,
Dan DeLong: from this icon. So somewhere else, or now all the people that knew where lending was, now it's somewhere else.
Right.
Rachel Dauchy: Yeah. That's really frustrating. But if, but if it can help. People find the things maybe that were previously hidden and they couldn't figure out where to go, then that's fine.
Dan DeLong: I think this iteration looks very it's more of a stepping stone and not a big of a drastic one as it, as this one.
The biggest thing that I noticed here short of the icons being here on the left side and. Other groupings here at the top is that your tools are here along the side, right? So instead of them being across the top, the they're, [00:35:00] showing here on the, side, and then you have an expandable option to, bring those up.
Yeah. But those are the same ones. Your bookmarks or tasks and calendar and payment processor, they're same tools are there. It's just. How it, how you navigate to all of these things. Oh, and it looks like you can actually just pop it out, but of course that doesn't work in the prototype.
So the, there is an option if you if, you find that a client has, opted into this there typically is an option to opt out. This is one of those things that they're probably going to continue to make these changes with or without you opting in or out.
Intro Music: Yeah.
Dan DeLong: So it's it's probably something to get used to [00:36:00] as opposed to, just.
Trying to avoid the inevitable sweeping, sweeping back the ocean with a B right?
You, yourself as one person are going to. Intuit does listen to feedback. They are listening to the, feedback of the people who are beta testing this out. If you make them limit that to half of the sample size by having these people opt out of the beta test, then they have less people to hear from, and, make things a little better.
But you won't see this until, june, July. So you'll, no, I was just
Rachel Dauchy: going to ask you, when do you think there Yeah, this will come out. Yeah.
Dan DeLong: Looks like this is gonna be rolling out in new, new new pricing, new versions. That will be in, in July timeframe. [00:37:00] So after July 1st. This is gonna happen in phases, right?
It's not gonna be everyone. It's gonna flip all at once. So that. Period. That grace period where you have some clients in the old and some clients in the new is gonna be a challenge, which I guess this is the time of year to do that and not tax season.
Rachel Dauchy: Yeah.
Dan DeLong: When especially when people are trying to get out.
Payroll forms and 10 90 nines and all things in January, and then do the tax returns and all that stuff after that. I guess this is the best time to do that. I, there is never a good time to, to make a huge user interface overhaul, but we wanted to at least give you a, a taste of, what this would potentially look like.
Which do you like better? Do you like concept [00:38:00] B or concept A? You put that in the
Rachel Dauchy: column. I like B.
Dan DeLong: Alright, so Rachel says BIII tend to agree because it, I think from someone who, it, it's a stepping stone as far as the, change. And it still incorporates, I think the, major changes that they're trying to, do doesn't change the whole idea of apps, terminology.
Rachel Dauchy: As long as I can still use right to right tool. I don't care. That for me, doesn't change. 'cause I always use the plus in that. The setup. So that's where my brain always goes. So they can change this all they want,
Dan DeLong: all right.
Conclusion and Next Week's Topic
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Dan DeLong: We appreciate you joining us this week and, hopefully this was this was helpful.
Next week we are gonna be talking about the enhancements to QuickBooks Payments, so like tap to [00:39:00] pay recurring invoices and sending sending invoices where the customer. So we'll chat on that next.
Rachel Dauchy: Yeah, we need to talk about that. I figure out exactly how to do that.
Dan DeLong: Alright, we'll see you next week on the workshop Wednesday, and I hope everybody has a great day. [00:40:00]
